netKar PRO - Page 4

Los[cz] · 31.3.2006

Zitra by melo dle oznameni vyjit nove cislo Autosimsportu (PDF volne ke stazeni) s exkluzivni recenzi dema NKPro.
autosimsport.com

# All the latest news - including coverage of nKPRO's debut in Lanciano
# T1 - Online with netKar PRO - World Exclusive Review of nKPRO Demo

Odhodlali jste se nakonec nekdo k porizeni licence? V prepoctu me prisla na nejakych 875Kc.

Ondrejko · 31.3.2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Los[cz

]Zitra by melo dle oznameni vyjit nove cislo Autosimsportu (PDF volne ke stazeni) s exkluzivni recenzi dema NKPro.
autosimsport.com

# All the latest news - including coverage of nKPRO's debut in Lanciano
# T1 - Online with netKar PRO - World Exclusive Review of nKPRO Demo

Odhodlali jste se nakonec nekdo k porizeni licence? V prepoctu me prisla na nejakych 875Kc.

keby som konecne mal volant, tak by som sa odhodlal

Chaos · 31.3.2006

ja se rozhodnu az podle dema...

Ondrejko · 1.4.2006

interview:

TGM: Since when you are working on netKar PRO?
MARKUS72: we intensify the work on the PRO in the last 9 months, the project started in the winter of 2004. Stefano Casillo works on this project, in all its evolutions, since 5 years.

TGM: When you decided to make it a commercial product?
M72: During 2003, at Misano, we got an incredible "interest" from car specialized media about netKar free, it showed the potential to realize something with true value. We needed to go full time on the project, not only working on it during the free times, as before: so Stefano left his job in Japan to go fulltime in this project.

TGM: Stefano Casillo is well known for being into driving simulators. Which were his tasks during the evoultion of the sim?
M72: Stefano is the author and chief programmer,?heart and mind?: netKar PRO shows his philosopy, his concept of sim. It reproduce the reality, without making driving more difficult to make it look like realistic, nor to make it too easy so the simmer cannot feel real situations.

TGM: Is the grafich engine owned? Where you started to develope it?
M72: All about netKar before, and about netKar PRO now, all was planned and programmed by Stefano. No 3rd parts tools, all was built ?at home?. This allows to limit expenses but also to not be influenced by limitations in other (3rd parts) codes, and last but not least, this allows to make research and development. Innovation and originality. Games that use same code have a common structure and gameplay, and this is repetitive.

TGM: What kind of model of open wheelers you developed in this game?
M72: Time is come to get closer to the concept of "simulation" instead of "game". Making a new "approach" for driving genre it is one of the target. Stefano works and studies day by day most modern theory on physic of tyres, aero and all the elements that are needed to simulate the car behaviour. The priority is physic modelling, then "engines" (gfx, sounds etc). The real revolution of v 1.0 was the possibility to use real data of the modelled cars. Often physic engines reproduce elements but without using correct data and infos; simple example, physic engine considers separate weights of every part of the car, but it's not so easy to have the correct values, for exmple of a brake caliper weight. In netKar PRO, Stefano was helped by Andrea Quintarelli, Race Engineer for team Target. In our opinion, the quantity of elements matematically simulated and ?visually? in netKar PRO represent a little revolution in driving sim world: for example, differently from what we saw till now, tires get dirty, progressively wear, with infinitesimal variations and never the same. Nothing is pre-calculated for tires.

TGM: How many tracks and cars?
M72: 4 full circuits, GP and ?Short? versions, plus the test track, with different sectors, all can be reached starting from the pit. We don't add layouts changing pit position or reversing tracks: every turn of every single circuit is studied for a target. Reach the limit of the car and drivers skills. The more a track is built wit "targets", the less the need to reverse it.
Team Target was helpful in car development and Riccardo Azzoli too (Formula Gloria, Formula Renault e Formula 3 driver). Thank to his help and his race engineer, Andrea Quintarelli, we create 4 models of openwheel cars.The fact that Andrea and Riccardo are true sim driving lovers helped us very much especially in getting the product close to the reality.

TGM: Multiplayer: how is it and which features?
M72: multi in netKar PRO is maily studied for championships and leagues instead of pickup races. So there is the possibility to do tests, qualify and race in different days [...] to edit starting grids, add ballasts and so on.
The real revolution is ?full mode? that forces the driver to follow all the procedures of real driving. For example, it'll be impossible to return to pit box simply pressing a button. In ?full mode? a crash, for example a suspension damage, means loosing real time so no possibility to race in that session.

TGM: any plans for future add-ons?
M72: version 1.0 is just the beginning: it'll not be a standalone sim, but a develop platform. Our targets: not only new circuits and cars, made with the help of team racing or car producers, but also advanced ?racing packets?. When drivers will be confident wit cars, we'll introduce a new thing, never considered in sim racing, ?history? of car: an openwheel car in the reality do a certain # of kms, it could be crashed (frame or other parts).
This change the approach of driving; tha driver "owns" the car. 1st he must cope with the wear or damages of the car and with his driving style. 2nd, in a championship, this oblige him to be careful and "think" like real driver. Example, during a chamipnship, he could have a limitated number of tires, frames, gearboxes, engines, and sospensions. No more ?credits?, a concept closer to flippers than to driving sims.

TGM: It'll be possible to build mods and add-ons as with an open structure of R-Factor?
M72: ver 1.0 was made with the Development kit that will be realesed in the next months, with a dedicated editor, so to realize cars and tracks. It'll not be free, to prevent mods of low quality.
Modding is ESSENTIAL for the longevity of a product, but now we see amotorial mods of every kind, so the general quality go flat, and, in the end, also a valid mod is not appreciated. Grand Prix Legends wasn't modded for years and we didn't complain about it.
Yes to modding, like ?RSR?, or like ?Simbin at the beginning?.

Ondrejko · 2.4.2006

dnes by mal vyjst novy casopis autosimsport s netkarPRO
http://www.autosimsport.com/

Chaos · 2.4.2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ondrejko

dnes by mal vyjst novy casopis autosimsport s netkarPRO
http://www.autosimsport.com/

je venku uz od rana... download... a o nkpro tam toho teda moc neni...
edit> aha, tak to zrovna ted opravuji... rano to stahnout slo...

Los[cz] · 2.4.2006

Jsem se spletl, o NKPro psali uz minule (preview v breznovem cisle). Tentokrat pouze pridali par pozitivnich hodnoceni aby nas jeste vice navnadili.

joshua · 8.4.2006

u jste si to n?kdo p?edopbjednal? za chvíli to vyjde na sv?t, tak at máme co nejrychleji první dojmy od co nejvíc lidí

Ondrejko · 9.4.2006

a hlavne vela videi

Los[cz] · 9.4.2006

Dalsi, temer dvouminutove video z predvadecky. (~45MB)

jet · 9.4.2006

ve hre maji nejak opozdeny volant...

Jardier · 9.4.2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by jet

ve hre maji nejak opozdeny volant...

mozna si to dotycnej blbe nastavil

ot:

Los[cz] · 9.4.2006

Zpozdeni se mi nezda az tak hrozne. Mozna malinko horsi nez LFS, ale proti rFactoru ci GTR je to zlate. Jeste se 1x vyspinkame a vytvor posoudime kazdy individualne :drive:

Pablo · 9.4.2006

To video jsem stahnul uz predevcirem, ale nejde mi prehrat, tak jsem to sem radsi nedaval.. asi blbe stazeny nebo co, skoci mi to hned na konec, zkusim znova..
To zpozdeni jsem jeste teda u nKP nevidel, ale treba v rF je strasny! Zkousel jsem PCC a diky tomu jsem nebyl schopnej vubec ridit, je to jak kdyby volant byl spojenej se snimacem pres metrovou gumu.. doufam ze nKP tuhle "feature" mit nebude.
EDIT: stahnul jsem znovu s stejne mi to nejde prehrat, delka 46 661 700 bytes souhlasi?

Jardier · 9.4.2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablo

EDIT: stahnul jsem znovu s stejne mi to nejde prehrat, delka 46 661 700 bytes souhlasi?

souhlasi :up:

jet · 9.4.2006

info o tom videu

Los[cz] · 9.4.2006

Zadny problem pro stabilni FFDShow + MediaPlayerClassic (aka Combined Community Codec Pack). link here

Pablo · 9.4.2006

Tak ani CCCP nepomohl

Ani jsem to necekal, protoze kodeky mam myslim vsechny, videi mam stovky a tohle je prvni co mi nejede.. MPC se po kliknuti na video pusti a hned se zase ukonci a MV2Player ktery pouzivam standardne skoci na konec videa a stoji, nic s tim nejde delat.
Moje video ma MD5 checksum B7679A0724062F8F1116D019D9208FE1
edit: koukam ze ten checksum umi i TotalCommander: files/create crc checksum

jet · 9.4.2006

to mas fuk.. ono na tom videu stejne skoro nic neni..

Jardier · 9.4.2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by jet

to mas fuk.. ono na tom videu stejne skoro nic neni..

to mas pravdu :down: mozna to nechtej radsi ukazat :sofa:

31.3.2006	#61
Los[cz] Member iframe Join Date: 4.3.2005 Location: Most Posts: 225	Zitra by melo dle oznameni vyjit nove cislo Autosimsportu (PDF volne ke stazeni) s exkluzivni recenzi dema NKPro. autosimsport.com # All the latest news - including coverage of nKPRO's debut in Lanciano # T1 - Online with netKar PRO - World Exclusive Review of nKPRO Demo Odhodlali jste se nakonec nekdo k porizeni licence? V prepoctu me prisla na nejakych 875Kc. __________________ LFS \| NKP \| AC \| iR sunday racer

31.3.2006	#63
Chaos Administrator iframe Join Date: 23.7.2004 Location: Ceska Rep. Posts: 4 325	ja se rozhodnu az podle dema... __________________ Do you FEEL THE SPEED?! Navtivte nás na www.zt-racing.com! Mé LFS World statistiky. www.301.cz Robert '[ZT] Chaos' Kotlaba

1.4.2006	#64
Ondrejko LFS Guru iframe Join Date: 13.5.2005 Location: Koice Posts: 2 773	interview: TGM: Since when you are working on netKar PRO? MARKUS72: we intensify the work on the PRO in the last 9 months, the project started in the winter of 2004. Stefano Casillo works on this project, in all its evolutions, since 5 years. TGM: When you decided to make it a commercial product? M72: During 2003, at Misano, we got an incredible "interest" from car specialized media about netKar free, it showed the potential to realize something with true value. We needed to go full time on the project, not only working on it during the free times, as before: so Stefano left his job in Japan to go fulltime in this project. TGM: Stefano Casillo is well known for being into driving simulators. Which were his tasks during the evoultion of the sim? M72: Stefano is the author and chief programmer,?heart and mind?: netKar PRO shows his philosopy, his concept of sim. It reproduce the reality, without making driving more difficult to make it look like realistic, nor to make it too easy so the simmer cannot feel real situations. TGM: Is the grafich engine owned? Where you started to develope it? M72: All about netKar before, and about netKar PRO now, all was planned and programmed by Stefano. No 3rd parts tools, all was built ?at home?. This allows to limit expenses but also to not be influenced by limitations in other (3rd parts) codes, and last but not least, this allows to make research and development. Innovation and originality. Games that use same code have a common structure and gameplay, and this is repetitive. TGM: What kind of model of open wheelers you developed in this game? M72: Time is come to get closer to the concept of "simulation" instead of "game". Making a new "approach" for driving genre it is one of the target. Stefano works and studies day by day most modern theory on physic of tyres, aero and all the elements that are needed to simulate the car behaviour. The priority is physic modelling, then "engines" (gfx, sounds etc). The real revolution of v 1.0 was the possibility to use real data of the modelled cars. Often physic engines reproduce elements but without using correct data and infos; simple example, physic engine considers separate weights of every part of the car, but it's not so easy to have the correct values, for exmple of a brake caliper weight. In netKar PRO, Stefano was helped by Andrea Quintarelli, Race Engineer for team Target. In our opinion, the quantity of elements matematically simulated and ?visually? in netKar PRO represent a little revolution in driving sim world: for example, differently from what we saw till now, tires get dirty, progressively wear, with infinitesimal variations and never the same. Nothing is pre-calculated for tires. TGM: How many tracks and cars? M72: 4 full circuits, GP and ?Short? versions, plus the test track, with different sectors, all can be reached starting from the pit. We don't add layouts changing pit position or reversing tracks: every turn of every single circuit is studied for a target. Reach the limit of the car and drivers skills. The more a track is built wit "targets", the less the need to reverse it. Team Target was helpful in car development and Riccardo Azzoli too (Formula Gloria, Formula Renault e Formula 3 driver). Thank to his help and his race engineer, Andrea Quintarelli, we create 4 models of openwheel cars.The fact that Andrea and Riccardo are true sim driving lovers helped us very much especially in getting the product close to the reality. TGM: Multiplayer: how is it and which features? M72: multi in netKar PRO is maily studied for championships and leagues instead of pickup races. So there is the possibility to do tests, qualify and race in different days [...] to edit starting grids, add ballasts and so on. The real revolution is ?full mode? that forces the driver to follow all the procedures of real driving. For example, it'll be impossible to return to pit box simply pressing a button. In ?full mode? a crash, for example a suspension damage, means loosing real time so no possibility to race in that session. TGM: any plans for future add-ons? M72: version 1.0 is just the beginning: it'll not be a standalone sim, but a develop platform. Our targets: not only new circuits and cars, made with the help of team racing or car producers, but also advanced ?racing packets?. When drivers will be confident wit cars, we'll introduce a new thing, never considered in sim racing, ?history? of car: an openwheel car in the reality do a certain # of kms, it could be crashed (frame or other parts). This change the approach of driving; tha driver "owns" the car. 1st he must cope with the wear or damages of the car and with his driving style. 2nd, in a championship, this oblige him to be careful and "think" like real driver. Example, during a chamipnship, he could have a limitated number of tires, frames, gearboxes, engines, and sospensions. No more ?credits?, a concept closer to flippers than to driving sims. TGM: It'll be possible to build mods and add-ons as with an open structure of R-Factor? M72: ver 1.0 was made with the Development kit that will be realesed in the next months, with a dedicated editor, so to realize cars and tracks. It'll not be free, to prevent mods of low quality. Modding is ESSENTIAL for the longevity of a product, but now we see amotorial mods of every kind, so the general quality go flat, and, in the end, also a valid mod is not appreciated. Grand Prix Legends wasn't modded for years and we didn't complain about it. Yes to modding, like ?RSR?, or like ?Simbin at the beginning?. __________________ SimRacing.sk \| Live For Speed \| iRacing \| netKar PRO \| rFactor \| rFactor 2 \| Fanatec

2.4.2006	#65
Ondrejko LFS Guru iframe Join Date: 13.5.2005 Location: Koice Posts: 2 773	dnes by mal vyjst novy casopis autosimsport s netkarPRO http://www.autosimsport.com/ __________________ SimRacing.sk \| Live For Speed \| iRacing \| netKar PRO \| rFactor \| rFactor 2 \| Fanatec

2.4.2006	#67
Los[cz] Member iframe Join Date: 4.3.2005 Location: Most Posts: 225	Jsem se spletl, o NKPro psali uz minule (preview v breznovem cisle). Tentokrat pouze pridali par pozitivnich hodnoceni aby nas jeste vice navnadili. __________________ LFS \| NKP \| AC \| iR sunday racer

8.4.2006	#68
joshua Member iframe Join Date: 14.7.2005 Location: Most Posts: 117	u jste si to n?kdo p?edopbjednal? za chvíli to vyjde na sv?t, tak at máme co nejrychleji první dojmy od co nejvíc lidí __________________ The one who gets on the throttle first usually wins, because all we do is drag race between the corners. -- Carroll Smith B.E.E.R. Team member- BEER Team web

9.4.2006	#69
Ondrejko LFS Guru iframe Join Date: 13.5.2005 Location: Koice Posts: 2 773	a hlavne vela videi __________________ SimRacing.sk \| Live For Speed \| iRacing \| netKar PRO \| rFactor \| rFactor 2 \| Fanatec

9.4.2006	#71
jet LFS Guru iframe Join Date: 22.7.2004 Location: hk Posts: 2 643	ve hre maji nejak opozdeny volant... __________________ G25 Wheel&GI \| MyPC \| MyWeb \| Czech e-Racing Team \| MyTrophy's \| MyLast.fm \| CheatPack RSR Profile

9.4.2006	#74
Pablo Administrator iframe Join Date: 28.11.2004 Location: Jablonec n. N. Posts: 2 944	To video jsem stahnul uz predevcirem, ale nejde mi prehrat, tak jsem to sem radsi nedaval.. asi blbe stazeny nebo co, skoci mi to hned na konec, zkusim znova.. To zpozdeni jsem jeste teda u nKP nevidel, ale treba v rF je strasny! Zkousel jsem PCC a diky tomu jsem nebyl schopnej vubec ridit, je to jak kdyby volant byl spojenej se snimacem pres metrovou gumu.. doufam ze nKP tuhle "feature" mit nebude. EDIT: stahnul jsem znovu s stejne mi to nejde prehrat, delka 46 661 700 bytes souhlasi?

9.4.2006	#76
jet LFS Guru iframe Join Date: 22.7.2004 Location: hk Posts: 2 643	info o tom videu __________________ G25 Wheel&GI \| MyPC \| MyWeb \| Czech e-Racing Team \| MyTrophy's \| MyLast.fm \| CheatPack RSR Profile

9.4.2006	#78
Pablo Administrator iframe Join Date: 28.11.2004 Location: Jablonec n. N. Posts: 2 944	Tak ani CCCP nepomohl Ani jsem to necekal, protoze kodeky mam myslim vsechny, videi mam stovky a tohle je prvni co mi nejede.. MPC se po kliknuti na video pusti a hned se zase ukonci a MV2Player ktery pouzivam standardne skoci na konec videa a stoji, nic s tim nejde delat. Moje video ma MD5 checksum B7679A0724062F8F1116D019D9208FE1 edit: koukam ze ten checksum umi i TotalCommander: files/create crc checksum