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Old 26.3.2008   #1
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Default Inno3D d?lá karty o 0.15 cm tenší?

Ahoj je toto pravda nebo je to jen n?jaký flame? ?etl jsem o tom na foru nVidia tak nevím jestli je to pravda a nebo si nVidia dokazuje že je lepší?
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Old 26.3.2008   #2
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O 1,5 mm ?? to by na tu kartu uz moc nezbejvalo ne ?? tyhle rozmery sou urcite dany normou ktera popisuje PCI slot tady pochybuju ze si vyrobce muze neco menit (i kdyz ..). BTW ja myslel ze Nvidia je vyrobce chipu a ne karet ? pokud by Inno delalo pro Nvidi karty pochybuju ze by si to dovolili takhle vosrat
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no, ale je to tak obravdu je d?lá tenší já jsem si schváln? zkusil zm??it svou GF4 MX440 ta je od Manli a pak to porovnal stou Inno3d FX5700 a je obravdu tenší ne sice o 1.5 mm, ale o 1.2 mm
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Tak to me snad uz nemuze nic prekvapit , koukam je to vsude ochcavat normy tak aspon je videt na cem se u levnych vyrobcu setri
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who cares? kdyz drzi ve slotu, tak je celkem jedno jak je tlusta, nebo ne?
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to jsou takový zm*di no ona stejn? odešla do v??ných loviš? a už mám ob?dnanou jinou takže to ne?ešim
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who cares? kdyz drzi ve slotu, tak je celkem jedno jak je tlusta, nebo ne?
odstup vodicu u vicevrstvych tistaku a tak podobne.
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no a co z toho? indukce pri tak malych napetich, ktere jsou na karte, nehrozi temer zadna...
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Ale pri tech frekvencich... Vga karty jsou nejvic nachylne na magneticke zareni. Stare cerpadlo mi delalo trochu bordel v obraze.
Na PCB se da usetrit. Treba tim ze se udela min vrstve. Mensi cena a i tloustka. Konektory se delaj s rezervou vetsi nez tech 0,15.

Ono se nesetri jen na PCB ale dost trpi i treba kvalita kondenzatoru a dalsich dilu.
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no a co z toho? indukce pri tak malych napetich, ktere jsou na karte, nehrozi temer zadna...
to jsou bohate dostacujici napeti, aby to delalo bordel, pral bych ti videt na osciloskopu, co to dokaze, kdyz mas blbe odstinenych 1,5 voltu na vysoke frekvenci
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no vzhledem k tomu ze na pcb grafiky neni stineni veskery zadny, tak v tomhle zjevne problem nebude
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Rika ti neco Faradaiova klec?
Proto je case z plechu. Takze zle elektromagneticke vlny se nedostanou dovnitr. Stejnej pricip funguje i u krytu zdroje akorat tam se zase brani aby utikaly ven.
Takhle se toho hodne odrusi.
A kdyz se skudli na PCB a soucastkach tak se to na stabilite docela projevi. Dily maji urcitou rezervu v odolnosti proti ruseni. Ale kdyz se skudli tak rezerva moc velka neni.
Ja ted dost uvazuju o tom ze v napajeci kaskade me MB vymenim za kvalitnejsi. Ty co tam jsou uz maj nejlepsi leta za sebou a X2 nechce tikat tak vysoko a musim do ni poustet vetsi napeti. Vcore napeti neni tak stabilni jako driv.
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aha jiste, a kdyz je case z akrylatu tak to asi taky hodne stini... a kdyz mam sundanou bocnici tak asi taky, vid? netvrdim, ze se nemuzou objevit problemy v dusledku ruseni komponent (napr. nastrihany placaty pata kabel k disku je obvyklym zdrojem problemu), ale pokud neni primo vedle kompu subwoofer apod., tak se otazka nejakeho stineni nemusi vubec resit... zdroj samozrejme odstineny musi byt, ale tam behaji uplne jina napeti nez pak v samotnem hw kompu...

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Akrylat a dalsi nekovovove materialy prinasi trochu vic problemu. Napriklad uzemneni. To taky nemaj soucastky rady. Ono je spousta veci co by se melo dodrzovat. Jenze nedodrzuje. Proto se vetsinou delaji soucastky odolnejsi proti ruseni. BTW i zdroje se delaji s plexi krytem.

Jinak uz jsem taky chvili provozoval PC jentak na krabici.
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