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Old 21.12.2007   #941
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v normalnim aute ti ridici jednotka pridava plyn (respektive u aut s mechanickou klapkou davkuje vstrikovani) pod urcitou hranici otacek prave z duvodu, aby motor nechcipnul. Ale rozhodne ne tak, jako by jsi dal plny plyn, to by snad neslo ani kvuli bezpecnosti.
No v normalnim aute.
Kdyz jsem presedlal z milovane S100 do Megana tak to byl vcelku sok, kdy pri prvnim zajizdeni do garaze, kdyz jsem poustel spojku do zaberu, si potvora pridal plyn a rzane "vykrocil" vstric dverim. Ale uz jsem si zvykl. Myslim, ze pro pritelkyni je to vec k nezaplaceni

Jen me chybi ten souboj ze 100, kdy uz motor po 260 000 bez generalky (jen vymena vyfukovych ventilu) trochu zakuckaval pri rozjedu a na spojce to byl boj. Uz aby bylo leto a hura do generalky (vyhled na par let v mem pripade)

I kdyz ctu znova tvuj prispevek, tak mam pocit, ze jsi myslel u starsich aut, ala S100, trysku chodu naprazdno (deravej sroub v karburatoru).
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Old 21.12.2007   #942
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No v normalnim aute.
Kdyz jsem presedlal z milovane S100 do Megana tak to byl vcelku sok, kdy pri prvnim zajizdeni do garaze, kdyz jsem poustel spojku do zaberu, si potvora pridal plyn a rzane "vykrocil" vstric dverim. Ale uz jsem si zvykl. Myslim, ze pro pritelkyni je to vec k nezaplaceni

Jen me chybi ten souboj ze 100, kdy uz motor po 260 000 bez generalky (jen vymena vyfukovych ventilu) trochu zakuckaval pri rozjedu a na spojce to byl boj. Uz aby bylo leto a hura do generalky (vyhled na par let v mem pripade)

I kdyz ctu znova tvuj prispevek, tak mam pocit, ze jsi myslel u starsich aut, ala S100, trysku chodu naprazdno (deravej sroub v karburatoru).
kdepak, u starych aut s karburatorem me nenapada, co by to takhle regulovalo. Myslim prave u aut s ridici jednotkou, kde se pocitac stara o to, aby motor nechcipnul tim, ze patricne davkuje palivo. Ta hranice otacek je ruzna, u Opla ji mam nekde kolem 800 ot/min a u tranzita take neco tak kolem. Naopak pri brzdeni motorem, dokud otacky neklesnou pod danou hranici, tak auta s ridici jednotkou prestanou uplne davkovat palivo a zacnou davkovat prave az pod tou hranici otacek.
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Old 21.12.2007   #943
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...Ale ted vazne. Spojka odpoji nahon od motoru, synchrony si srovnaji rychlost otaceni ozubenych kol zarazovaneho stupne a zuby se vsunou do zubu (ano, odvaluji se po sobe po evolventni krivce, ale nejsou pevne ulozena na loziscich, nybrz klouzou (-za pomoci vidlicek) axialne po hrideli, ktera je az ulozena v loziscich).
Kurte, hernajs, tebe taky ucili zlocinci...

V seriove (a dnes uz i u vetsiny zavodnich) prevodovce jsou kola ve stalem zaberu. Vidlicky presouvaji ozubenou objimku synchronu, ktera pres vnitrni drazkovani propoji kolo pevne s hrideli...
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Old 21.12.2007   #944
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Kurte, hernajs, tebe taky ucili zlocinci...

V seriove (a dnes uz i u vetsiny zavodnich) prevodovce jsou kola ve stalem zaberu. Vidlicky presouvaji ozubenou objimku synchronu, ktera pres vnitrni drazkovani propoji kolo pevne s hrideli...
Hledal jsem obrazek, ale marne
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Old 21.12.2007   #945
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Kurte, hernajs, tebe taky ucili zlocinci...

V seriove (a dnes uz i u vetsiny zavodnich) prevodovce jsou kola ve stalem zaberu. Vidlicky presouvaji ozubenou objimku synchronu, ktera pres vnitrni drazkovani propoji kolo pevne s hrideli...
a u zavodnich prevodovek (dog-ring, cesky lidove Hewland) ((jedno jestli H nebo sekvencnich- tohle v LFS taky neni doreseno))
je misto objimky a synchronu soustava hrubych podbrousenych zubu na ?ele prevodoveho soukoli (a je jedno jestli primy nebo sikmy zub), ktere prenaseji kroutak na zarazene soukoli. ale co bych vam tu vykladal, dam obrazek. levy presuvnik je zarazen, pravy s cervenymi znackami v neutralu.

proto taky Josef mohl vyhrat, protoze mel ve Fanousovi hevlanda, tam jde losovat kvalty bez spojky a i pri plnem plynu. Zalezi pouze na tom, jak moc jsou podbrouseny ty zuby, jestli to jde vytahnout v zatezi. Z vlastni zkusenosti vim, ze na favoritovi to slo.

JET- v omezene mire to delaji vsechny auta s ECU a regulaci volnobehu-auta s lankovym plynem maji obtokovy ventil na klapce nebo elektromotorem hybou celou klapkou v omezenem rozsahu. auta s elektronickou klapkou umeji samozrejme otevrit klapku bez zasahu pilota i uplne, ale pro regulaci volnobehu se asi cely rozsah nepouziva.
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Old 21.12.2007   #946
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kde si videl X39?

EDIT: pardon, uz jsem ho nasel
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Old 21.12.2007   #947
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Tak. Uz se da rict jenom amen...

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Old 21.12.2007   #948
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Pekny "prevodovkovy" clanek... Myslim, ze to dobre doplni predchozi informace.

http://www.autoweb.sk/zavody-wrc-ral...aru-8230/10165
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Old 21.12.2007   #949
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...dekuji za pekne cteni.....jsem se dovedel veci ,ktere me do ted unikali ...
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Old 21.12.2007   #950
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...dekuji za pekne cteni.....jsem se dovedel veci ,ktere me do ted unikali ...
No tobe urcite... Komediante...
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Old 21.12.2007   #951
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JET- v omezene mire to delaji vsechny auta s ECU a regulaci volnobehu-auta s lankovym plynem maji obtokovy ventil na klapce nebo elektromotorem hybou celou klapkou v omezenem rozsahu. auta s elektronickou klapkou umeji samozrejme otevrit klapku bez zasahu pilota i uplne, ale pro regulaci volnobehu se asi cely rozsah nepouziva.
dik za objasneni, presne to jsem si myslel
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tak už stahuju Y a sem moc zv?davej
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Tam podle m? nic neni novýho oproti X39.
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Old 22.12.2007   #956
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Tam podle m? nic neni novýho oproti X39.
a co by tam malo byt nove? x39 bola test patch ,kde si potrebovali overit stabilitu +mooozno neake malinke bugy ,potom uz to len skompilovali ,dali neonky a je Y
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Old 22.12.2007   #957
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viete niekto preco je FBM sucastou S1 a nie S2?
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Old 22.12.2007   #958
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viete niekto preco je FBM sucastou S1 a nie S2?
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no bude to nieco kvoli tomu hladaniu jazdcov .mozno aby to mali lacnejsie ked chcu s tym jazdit. a S1 je len 12libier
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viete niekto preco je FBM sucastou S1 a nie S2?
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ona teda nebude nakonec v demu?
jinak jak pise brano, taky myslim, ze v demu/S1 je hlavne kvuli avizovane "talent show"
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viete niekto preco je FBM sucastou S1 a nie S2?
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M?žeš mi ?íct jedinej rozumnej d?vod, pro? by demo auto nem?lo být v S1? Jako že kdo neplatí, má ho, kdo dá 12liber, p?ijde o n?j, pokud se nevrátí do dema Jj, to má logiku
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